Wednesday, October 15, 2008

There is an automatic conflict between religous freedom and gay rights that is unavoidable.

A response to a discussion on Prop 8:

I think religion and religious liberties are being confused here.

There is an automatic conflict between religous freedom and gay rights that is unavoidable. Kindness and respect belong there and should be bettered by some. Nevertheless, there is a conflict. The very fabric of one's life is based upon standards and values that are at the core of the decisions he/she makes. If the term _marraige_ becomes redefined, many will be forced to choose between the deep values they hold or tolerance. To heed the cries of tolerance, they will have to actually condone the choice and sacrifice deep personal values.

There are really two diasadvantaged groups here.

I can indeed give "one negative effect Prop 8 will have on society." or a few.

It comes in the form of lawsuits over this emotional conflict between core standards and this possible new definition.

An posting quoted in a similar thread states:

"__An article by NPR, National Public Radio, which is not fired up by emotion or opinion, cited many examples happening NOW that show the consequences of the choice we make on NOVEMBER 4TH:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91486191

Excerpts:
Not only did Catholic Charities stop ADOPTION SERVICES they had done for generations (a loss to the New York community indeed) because they would not place children in same-sex homes, but a similar case IN CALIFORNIA has already take place. The name of the group is Adoption Profiles and they no longer facilitate adoptions in CA.

PRIVATE CHURCH SCHOOLS are impacted. NPR cites one case underway for a suspension of a lesbian couple at California Lutheran High School and another has concluded that the Orthodox Jewish College, Yeshiva University's Albert Einstein College of Medicine, must be forced to allow same-sex couples in their married dorms. Without cheering or booing the outcome, it is clear that there are legal consequences to Prop 8.

CONSEQUENCES TO MEDICAL FIELD - A gynecologist with North Coast Women's Care Medical Group in Vista, CA refused inviter treatments to a lesbian couple for religious beliefs and is currently being sued. According to NPR, "legal experts believe that the woman's right to medical treatment will trump the doctor's religious beliefs. One justice suggested that the doctors take up a different line of business." Another case involving counseling to better a lesbian couple's relationship ended with a fired counselor and a lost court case. There are LeGAL ConsEQUENcES to Prop 8.

YOUTH GROUPS are being denied facilities such as the Boy Scouts of America in Berkeley, California and San Diego. The California Supreme Court has been asked to review the Boy Scouts' leases, and similarly, in Philadelphia the Boy Scout lease on a city building has been revoked.

So again I say that while churches cannot be forced to marry anyone, there are real-life and serious consequences to a redefining of the term marriage.__"

There are serious consequences to the choice we make.
A short, kind video worth watching to help make this decision is found at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI-GjWY-WlA

I have already voted YES on 8. To help make your decision please visit http://whatisprop8.com/

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